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	<title>Comments on: The Hermeneutical Interface of James &#038; Paul (Part IV)</title>
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		<title>By: C. Ryan Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://blog.solagratia.org/2005/11/21/the-hermeneutical-interface-of-james-paul-part-iv/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Ryan Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following factors suggest that the salvation referenced in James 2:14ff. is eternal and not physical:

1) In the &lt;i&gt;immediate&lt;/i&gt; context (James 2:13), James makes reference to a judgment that is "without mercy" (aneleos).  It is inconceivable that this word could be used to refer to anything other than eternal judgment.  In fact, only one's antinomian presuppositions would lead one to take this word in a way that is opposed to its natural sense. 

2) In the &lt;i&gt;wider&lt;/i&gt; context (e.g., James 1:21), James demonstrates that his greater concern in this epistle is for the &lt;i&gt;eternal salvation&lt;/i&gt; of his readers by stating, "..receive the word implanted, which is able to save your souls."  The Greek word chosen here is psuchÄ“ ("soul").  This is not the word that is normally used to denote physical "life" in the NT.  The word that is normally chosen to denote physical life is zÅÄ“.  In fact, James uses zÅÄ“ elsewhere in this very epistle to clearly refer to one's temporal life (cf. 4:14) when that is what he intends to communicate.  If he had meant to say "save your [physical] life" in 1:21, he could have chosen the word (zÅÄ“) â€“ a word that he uses elsewhere in the same epistle to unambiguously mean physical life.  That he didn't choose zÅÄ“ at 1:21 is telling, to say the least.

3) To take the unqualified verb "save" (sÅzÅ) in 2:14 as a qualified reference to â€œphysical salvationâ€ would require some clear contextual cue (such as one finds at Acts 27:31 and elsewhere).  However, both the immediate and wider context of James suggest an eternal meaning for â€œsaveâ€ at 2:14 especially since this "salvation" is spoken of in the context of (1) a judgment that is â€œwithout mercy,â€ (2) faith, (3) an appeal to â€œtrue religionâ€ at 1:27 (contrasted with the unstated antithesis â€œfalse religionâ€), and (4) the authorâ€™s concern for his readers eternal salvation at 1:21.   In light of this, why does Hodges argue for a physical salvation?  Hodges' antinomian presuppositions &lt;i&gt;force&lt;/i&gt; him and his disciples to read the unqualified salvation here as a qualified â€œphysical salvation.â€   He alleges that this simply &lt;i&gt;canâ€™t&lt;/i&gt; be a reference to eternal salvation because [according to his antinomian commitments] that would contradict his own peculiar understanding of salvation.  You see, their hermeneutic rules out possible alternative readings in an &lt;i&gt;a priori&lt;/i&gt; fashion and protects the foundational antinomian commitments at all expense (especially the expense of the original intent of the authors of Scripture).

4) Hodges' peculiar "temporal deliverance" view relies on an unbiblical distinction between "committed Christians (i.e., disciples)" and "non-committed Christians (non-disciples)" - a distinction that is never explicitly made in the NT.  

5) Further, if the â€œtemporal deliveranceâ€ view is correct, you have James laboring hard to demonstrate the absurdly obvious fact that faith without works doesnâ€™t demonstrate one to be a committed Christian.  His readers must have been incredibly thick-headed to need that illuminating piece of insight.

6) Hodgesâ€™ peculiar interpretation is without any attestation in the history of the church (and that includes [revealingly] a lack of attestation even among the Protestant Reformers).  As I mentioned, the contemporary antinomians seem to glory in the novelty of his/her interpretation(s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following factors suggest that the salvation referenced in <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=James+2%3A14" title="English Standard Version Bible">James 2:14</a>ff. is eternal and not physical:</p>
<p>1) In the <i>immediate</i> context (<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=James+2%3A13" title="English Standard Version Bible">James 2:13</a>), James makes reference to a judgment that is &#8220;without mercy&#8221; (aneleos).  It is inconceivable that this word could be used to refer to anything other than eternal judgment.  In fact, only one&#8217;s antinomian presuppositions would lead one to take this word in a way that is opposed to its natural sense. </p>
<p>2) In the <i>wider</i> context (e.g., <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=James+1%3A21" title="English Standard Version Bible">James 1:21</a>), James demonstrates that his greater concern in this epistle is for the <i>eternal salvation</i> of his readers by stating, &#8220;..receive the word implanted, which is able to save your souls.&#8221;  The Greek word chosen here is psuchÄ“ (&#8221;soul&#8221;).  This is not the word that is normally used to denote physical &#8220;life&#8221; in the NT.  The word that is normally chosen to denote physical life is zÅÄ“.  In fact, James uses zÅÄ“ elsewhere in this very epistle to clearly refer to one&#8217;s temporal life (cf. 4:14) when that is what he intends to communicate.  If he had meant to say &#8220;save your [physical] life&#8221; in 1:21, he could have chosen the word (zÅÄ“) â€“ a word that he uses elsewhere in the same epistle to unambiguously mean physical life.  That he didn&#8217;t choose zÅÄ“ at 1:21 is telling, to say the least.</p>
<p>3) To take the unqualified verb &#8220;save&#8221; (sÅzÅ) in 2:14 as a qualified reference to â€œphysical salvationâ€ would require some clear contextual cue (such as one finds at <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Acts+27%3A31" title="English Standard Version Bible">Acts 27:31</a> and elsewhere).  However, both the immediate and wider context of James suggest an eternal meaning for â€œsaveâ€ at 2:14 especially since this &#8220;salvation&#8221; is spoken of in the context of (1) a judgment that is â€œwithout mercy,â€ (2) faith, (3) an appeal to â€œtrue religionâ€ at 1:27 (contrasted with the unstated antithesis â€œfalse religionâ€), and (4) the authorâ€™s concern for his readers eternal salvation at 1:21.   In light of this, why does Hodges argue for a physical salvation?  Hodges&#8217; antinomian presuppositions <i>force</i> him and his disciples to read the unqualified salvation here as a qualified â€œphysical salvation.â€   He alleges that this simply <i>canâ€™t</i> be a reference to eternal salvation because [according to his antinomian commitments] that would contradict his own peculiar understanding of salvation.  You see, their hermeneutic rules out possible alternative readings in an <i>a priori</i> fashion and protects the foundational antinomian commitments at all expense (especially the expense of the original intent of the authors of Scripture).</p>
<p>4) Hodges&#8217; peculiar &#8220;temporal deliverance&#8221; view relies on an unbiblical distinction between &#8220;committed Christians (i.e., disciples)&#8221; and &#8220;non-committed Christians (non-disciples)&#8221; - a distinction that is never explicitly made in the NT.  </p>
<p>5) Further, if the â€œtemporal deliveranceâ€ view is correct, you have James laboring hard to demonstrate the absurdly obvious fact that faith without works doesnâ€™t demonstrate one to be a committed Christian.  His readers must have been incredibly thick-headed to need that illuminating piece of insight.</p>
<p>6) Hodgesâ€™ peculiar interpretation is without any attestation in the history of the church (and that includes [revealingly] a lack of attestation even among the Protestant Reformers).  As I mentioned, the contemporary antinomians seem to glory in the novelty of his/her interpretation(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://blog.solagratia.org/2005/11/21/the-hermeneutical-interface-of-james-paul-part-iv/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you don't mind additional questions.  This is a bit off the topic of the hermeneutical interface of James and Paul, but I am trying to better understand this passage (i.e., James 2:14-26).  You argue that the salvation being referred to in James 2:14 is eternal.  Following is a list of the reasons for this understanding that I have been able to pull from your series of articles and our interaction:

Arguments in favor of the salvation being referred to in James 2:14 is eternal:
1. The verse immediately preceding (i.e., James 2:13) refers to a judgement that is â€œwithout mercy.â€  This expression is nowhere found throughout the NT corpus with reference to true believers.
2.  The physical deliverance option does not have any attestation in the history of Christian interpretation prior to the 20th century.
3.  The epistle in 1:21 states â€œthe implanted Word is able to save your souls.â€  It states this in the context of the new birth in 1:18.

My question is, are there other reasons you would add?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you don&#8217;t mind additional questions.  This is a bit off the topic of the hermeneutical interface of James and Paul, but I am trying to better understand this passage (i.e., <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=James+2%3A14-26" title="English Standard Version Bible">James 2:14-26</a>).  You argue that the salvation being referred to in <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=James+2%3A14" title="English Standard Version Bible">James 2:14</a> is eternal.  Following is a list of the reasons for this understanding that I have been able to pull from your series of articles and our interaction:</p>
<p>Arguments in favor of the salvation being referred to in <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=James+2%3A14" title="English Standard Version Bible">James 2:14</a> is eternal:<br />
1. The verse immediately preceding (i.e., <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=James+2%3A13" title="English Standard Version Bible">James 2:13</a>) refers to a judgement that is â€œwithout mercy.â€  This expression is nowhere found throughout the NT corpus with reference to true believers.<br />
2.  The physical deliverance option does not have any attestation in the history of Christian interpretation prior to the 20th century.<br />
3.  The epistle in 1:21 states â€œthe implanted Word is able to save your souls.â€  It states this in the context of the new birth in 1:18.</p>
<p>My question is, are there other reasons you would add?</p>
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		<title>By: Reformata - A Reformed Blog &#187; The Hermeneutical Interface of James &#38; Paul (Part V)</title>
		<link>http://blog.solagratia.org/2005/11/21/the-hermeneutical-interface-of-james-paul-part-iv/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Reformata - A Reformed Blog &#187; The Hermeneutical Interface of James &#38; Paul (Part V)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thus far in our series, we have introduced the subject (Part I), laid out the various proposals (Part II), surveyed the semantic range exhibited by the key lexical terms that the authors share in common (Part III), and most recently we scrutinized the immediate and more distance textual context of James 2:14-24 (Part IV). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thus far in our series, we have introduced the subject (Part I), laid out the various proposals (Part II), surveyed the semantic range exhibited by the key lexical terms that the authors share in common (Part III), and most recently we scrutinized the immediate and more distance textual context of <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=James+2%3A14-24" title="English Standard Version Bible">James 2:14-24</a> (Part IV). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lito Cruz</title>
		<link>http://blog.solagratia.org/2005/11/21/the-hermeneutical-interface-of-james-paul-part-iv/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Lito Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not been doing exegesis because of lack of time. I compared mine and I am not far, I am glad. Thanks for this and please more of these studies. They are very helpful. I will put a link on this in my blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not been doing exegesis because of lack of time. I compared mine and I am not far, I am glad. Thanks for this and please more of these studies. They are very helpful. I will put a link on this in my blog</p>
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