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	<title>Comments on: On The Shoulders Of Giants (V)</title>
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	<description>Dealing with issues in reformed theology.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Waddington</title>
		<link>http://blog.solagratia.org/2006/02/13/on-the-shoulders-of-giants-v/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Waddington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  Van Til was critical of Kuyper at this point.  Non-Christian scientists can discover truth in spite of themselves.  It is because their theories connect with aspects of God's world that they have even a modicum of truth. I guess I would say that they possess "twisted truth" (to use the expression coined by Scott Oliphint in his book "The Battle Belongs to the Lord").  Non-Christians are made in God's image, live in 
God's world, and exist in relationship with God from the get-go (this is the source of "borrowed capital").  In other words, their thinking (i.e., theories) is not really autonomous.  That is what they think as they supress the truth.  But it is not in fact the case.  It is an interesting fact that Alvin Plantinga, who broadly stands in the Kuyperian tradition, has replicated Kuyper at just this point (neutral areas of science).  When all is said and done, I would want to say that non-Christians (scientists or otherwise) do know aspects of truth, but they can't account for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  Van Til was critical of Kuyper at this point.  Non-Christian scientists can discover truth in spite of themselves.  It is because their theories connect with aspects of God&#8217;s world that they have even a modicum of truth. I guess I would say that they possess &#8220;twisted truth&#8221; (to use the expression coined by Scott Oliphint in his book &#8220;The Battle Belongs to the Lord&#8221;).  Non-Christians are made in God&#8217;s image, live in<br />
God&#8217;s world, and exist in relationship with God from the get-go (this is the source of &#8220;borrowed capital&#8221;).  In other words, their thinking (i.e., theories) is not really autonomous.  That is what they think as they supress the truth.  But it is not in fact the case.  It is an interesting fact that Alvin Plantinga, who broadly stands in the Kuyperian tradition, has replicated Kuyper at just this point (neutral areas of science).  When all is said and done, I would want to say that non-Christians (scientists or otherwise) do know aspects of truth, but they can&#8217;t account for it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Keuss</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Keuss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this article very helpful.  Perhaps I will revisit Kuyper and look into more of this issue.  I wonder if you could explain more regarding the ability of non-Christian scientists to discover theories.  Do you think Van Til and Kuyper are exactly in line on the ability of scientists to do research?  I know that Van Til would say that they do research through use of borrowed capital.  I can see how Kuyper's insights influenced him somewhat on this.  Thank you for your article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this article very helpful.  Perhaps I will revisit Kuyper and look into more of this issue.  I wonder if you could explain more regarding the ability of non-Christian scientists to discover theories.  Do you think Van Til and Kuyper are exactly in line on the ability of scientists to do research?  I know that Van Til would say that they do research through use of borrowed capital.  I can see how Kuyper&#8217;s insights influenced him somewhat on this.  Thank you for your article.</p>
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