Comments on: The Covenant Sign of the Sabbath http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/ Dealing with issues in reformed theology. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:33:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Jim Richardson http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/#comment-51212 Jim Richardson Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:25:05 +0000 http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/#comment-51212 I also started a discussion at my blog specifically entitled: Sabbath rest vs. Sabbath day- Is there a distinction? http://thywordistruth.wordpress.com/2007/12/26/sabbath-rest-vs-sabbath-day-is-there-a-distinction/ I invite your comments. Lord bless! Jim Richardson I also started a discussion at my blog specifically entitled: Sabbath rest vs. Sabbath day- Is there a distinction?

http://thywordistruth.wordpress.com/2007/12/26/sabbath-rest-vs-sabbath-day-is-there-a-distinction/

I invite your comments. Lord bless!

Jim Richardson

]]> By: Camden Bucey http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/#comment-31722 Camden Bucey Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:20:23 +0000 http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/#comment-31722 jk, I one views the servants and animals as being part of the larger covenant community, this argument fails at that point. Thank you for bringing up Hebrews 4. It bears significantly on the discussion. How would you reconcile this passage with the Sabbath being a creation mandate? The Sabbath principle is something not simply given to the theocratic nation of Israel, but something bound up in the fabric of creation. The principle will work itself out differently at various points in redemptive history (e.g. we rest on Sunday - the Lord's Day rather than Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath), but I see the principle of 6 days of work and 1 day of rest as enduring. Thanks - I look forward to your response. jk,

I one views the servants and animals as being part of the larger covenant community, this argument fails at that point.

Thank you for bringing up Hebrews 4. It bears significantly on the discussion. How would you reconcile this passage with the Sabbath being a creation mandate? The Sabbath principle is something not simply given to the theocratic nation of Israel, but something bound up in the fabric of creation. The principle will work itself out differently at various points in redemptive history (e.g. we rest on Sunday - the Lord’s Day rather than Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath), but I see the principle of 6 days of work and 1 day of rest as enduring.

Thanks - I look forward to your response.

]]> By: jk http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/#comment-31515 jk Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:03:39 +0000 http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/#comment-31515 If you'll read the OT, you'll see that the commandment concerning the Sabbath was not just for the Jew (the one in the covenant) but also for the stranger in the land. Not only were the Jews not to work on the Sabbath, but they were not to have their servants (whether Jews or not) nor their animals (not even human) work on the Sabbath. If, therefore, Sunday is "the Christian Sabbath" then eating out on Sunday is a sin. But is Sunday the Christian Sabbath? When discussing the Sabbath, how that the 7th day Sabbath was not the fulfillment of God's promise, Paul says in Hebrews 4 "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God from his" he obviously is referring to heaven, not to Sunday. To prove this, he goes on in the next verse, saying, "Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief." If you’ll read the OT, you’ll see that the commandment concerning the Sabbath was not just for the Jew (the one in the covenant) but also for the stranger in the land. Not only were the Jews not to work on the Sabbath, but they were not to have their servants (whether Jews or not) nor their animals (not even human) work on the Sabbath. If, therefore, Sunday is “the Christian Sabbath” then eating out on Sunday is a sin. But is Sunday the Christian Sabbath? When discussing the Sabbath, how that the 7th day Sabbath was not the fulfillment of God’s promise, Paul says in Hebrews 4 “There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God from his” he obviously is referring to heaven, not to Sunday. To prove this, he goes on in the next verse, saying, “Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.”

]]> By: Andyboy http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/#comment-30797 Andyboy Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:14:21 +0000 http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/#comment-30797 If Kline is correct, this would release me from some worries I have had. For instance, with the job I had, I wanted to switch my Sunday hours with another fellow employee so I can observe the Lord's Day. But I had imagined that this would make him violate the fourth commandment (even though he is not a Christian in any sense). Does the non-Christian violate the fourth commandment every Lord's Day? Good quote, however. If Kline is correct, this would release me from some worries I have had. For instance, with the job I had, I wanted to switch my Sunday hours with another fellow employee so I can observe the Lord’s Day. But I had imagined that this would make him violate the fourth commandment (even though he is not a Christian in any sense). Does the non-Christian violate the fourth commandment every Lord’s Day?

Good quote, however.

]]> By: cutechica12 http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/#comment-29973 cutechica12 Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:21:13 +0000 http://blog.solagratia.org/2007/09/04/the-covenant-sign-of-the-sabbath/#comment-29973 i think that everyone is part of the covenate and that no one schould work on sundays,but what if your job requires you to work on sunday and you have no choice to because you need a job or if you are a doctor and you say your not going to work on sunday because its the lords day but somone at the hostpital calls you and said they need you because somone is dying are you going to say no or go help them. so i think that under certain circumstances god allows you to do your job.but i think that on sunday you should do as little as possible but not that you sit in a dark room all day just staring blankly into space just that you rest and spend time with your family and worship the Lord.in conclusion, their are many circumstances where you have to work but i dont think a group of people can decide wether you work on sunday or not i think its more personaland you as a person have to decide so im really not sure if i support it or disagree because so many of us including me usually go out to eat on sunday but i do think that when we go out were just supporting them to be open but also i know that your not really supose to work on sunday so its really what you think but mostly important on sunday we need to remember that its the Lords day. i think that everyone is part of the covenate and that no one schould work on sundays,but what if your job requires you to work on sunday and you have no choice to because you need a job or if you are a doctor and you say your not going to work on sunday because its the lords day but somone at the hostpital calls you and said they need you because somone is dying are you going to say no or go help them. so i think that under certain circumstances god allows you to do your job.but i think that on sunday you should do as little as possible but not that you sit in a dark room all day just staring blankly into space just that you rest and spend time with your family and worship the Lord.in conclusion, their are many circumstances where you have to work but i dont think a group of people can decide wether you work on sunday or not i think its more personaland you as a person have to decide so im really not sure if i support it or disagree because so many of us including me usually go out to eat on sunday but i do think that when we go out were just supporting them to be open but also i know that your not really supose to work on sunday so its really what you think but mostly important on sunday we need to remember that its the Lords day.

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